Super Cobra coming to PAF fleet

July 26, 2009

Attack Helicopter Acquisition Project

Super Cobra Deal

The Philippine Air Force will be adding 6-8 brand new Bell AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopters to its fleet next year in a defense deal worth $68 million (3.2 billion pesos) as part of a negotiated deal with the United States Government.

President Gloria Arroyo has ordered the Defense Department headed by Secretary Gilbert Teodoro Jr. to expedite the acquisition of brand-new attack helicopters after meeting with US Defense Secretary Robert Gates, so that these could be delivered before she steps down in 2010.

Meanwhile, Defense Undersecretary General Antonio Romero said in press briefing at Camp Aguinaldo that they are now waiting for the Philippine Air Force’s (PAF) final decision on the type of helicopters they want delivered.

He said the Air Force was given the choice to either buy MG-530, the upgraded version of the current MG-520 already in use by the military, or the Super Cobra attack helicopters used by US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“I cannot give you for now details about the specifications of a Super Cobra but I can assure you this is a very powerful attack aircraft with multiple weapons,” Romero said.

The Bell attack helicopter is worth $10 million dollars at list price. But a Defense official privy to the deal but doesn't have the permission to speak on the transaction said that the Philippines will received 8 export equipment should the government decides for its procurement. Inside sources diclosed that the procurement plan will be included in the agenda between President's Arroyo and Obama discussion in July 30 on her state visit to Washington to seal the deal.

The Air Force had been given three options to consider, the first of which is whether to retain the technical specifications of what they want for an attack helicopter, or reduce the number of aircraft they need to half, or buy second-hand MG-530 aircraft.

The choice was made apparent after the failed bidding on the AHAP procurements.

If the Air Force opts for the Super Cobra, Romero said that the approved budget is good only for four to six units, while if the MG-530 were chosen, 12 second-hand units can be purchased.

But if the technical specifications would be changed, this needs the approval of Defense Secretary Gilbert Teodoro which is unlikely after the scandal that rigged its bidding committee, which led to the cancellations of NCAP procurments, and if the option is to purchase refurbished units, this should be approved by the President.

The last two options however appeared to be a close door to the President having manifested the purchase of brand new attack equipments for the Air Force after getting support from Secretary Gates.


Night Capable Attack Helicopter Acquisition Project
MG-530 Anomaly.
The planned purchase of 1.2 Billion attack helicopters was supposed to have been delivered last year but was temporarily shelved by Secretary Teodoro and the previous award subsequently nullified after the Department’s awards and bidding committee (BAC) found merits in the complaint by a losing bidder, Poland's PZL-Swidnik, of anomalous bidding for an order that was pegged at that time at P1.2 billion ($30 million) for six night-capable attack helicopters. Investigators later found credence of the complaint to be not in accordance with approved Air Force Specifications .

At the heart of the issue is a requirement for the selected helicopter to have a payload of at least 1,360kg (3,000lb). PZL-Swidnik, which had offered its Kania design has a Max takeoff weight of 3,550 kg (7,826 lb) more than the minimum specifications but the MG530F offered by Asian Aerospace which had a Max takeoff weight of 1,361 kg (3,000 lbs) won despite shortcomings in MDHI's bid. The MG530F - a military version of the MD530F - has a payload of only about 680kg which is too light as compared to the competition.

Ariston delos Reyes, an undersecretary at the Philippines Department of Defense who is leading the investigation found the allegations of corruption in the selection of the MD Helicopters MG530F true in a report submitted to Secretary Gilberto Teodoro Jr. on the first week of February 2009. Asian Aerospace was also banned from participating in government projects for at least one year with a warning of permanentcy on the next infraction.

The selection committee members, comprising of both DND and PAF officials appeared to extrapolate the MG530 capacity by projecting higher payloads but cannot ascertained when asked how "they exactly arrived at that conclusion" which appears to be without basis at all.

Administrative and criminal charges were readied and filed against those responsible. General Romero was among those investigated in connection with the anomalous bidding. Several officials of the Department of National Defense are now facing graft and falsification charges before the Ombudsman over the scrapped bidding.


NCAP and AHAP purposely made failures?
Under the NCAP procurement, the Air Force should have acquired six (6) night capable attack helicopters but its bidding failed due to incompetence and machinations of some of its technical evaluation committee with inclination to a local supplier affiliated with local agent of Douglas Company.

While under the AHAP procurement plan, The Air Force is to acquire fourteen (14) brand-new Attack Helicopters as part of the Special Allotment Release Order (SARO) No. D-07-06412 for FY-2007 and SARO No. D-07-05905, in accordance with the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) Modernization Program.

These helicopters is supposed to be capable of performing Close Air Support (CAS) during day and night, and navigate safely during inadvertent Instrument Meteorological Condition (IMC). Furthermore, they shall be equipped with armaments and avionics systems suitable for said flying conditions.


Second failed bidding and options.
On March 10, 2009, the second bidding for the night-capable attack helicopters failed again for lack of qualified bidders to the proposed specifications.

For this reason, Teodoro hinted that following the failure of the procurement process, they are considering the purchase of second-hand helicopters with the same night capability to provide the air force with the same number of units it needs for its operations and that means entering into a negotiated deal with foreign governments.

“If the President approves it, we could buy second hand helicopters instead of new ones with the P3.2 billion that we have for that,”says Secretary Teodoro.

Another option, Teodoro said, is to recommend for the lowering of the lot requirement for the said aircraft to make the budget fit the new price in the market, which he did not specify.

“One option is to adjust the Special Allotment Release Order (SARO), and lessen the required number of units because of the budget that we have,” he said.

Teodoro said the air force needs the helicopters for firepower platform that could withstand the rigors of operations as well as in transporting troops and essential equipment needed in the frontlines.

Teodoro said further that a top-of-the-line attack helicopter presently costs around $83 million, which is about P3.7 billion. The best choice would probably be the Cobra helicopter pegged at $10 million. The President also has made her mind on what is to be bought.

The PAF has 24 Nomads, 18 OV-10 “Bronco,” 12 MG-520 attack helicopters, four C-130 “Hercules” transports and three squadrons of UH-1H helicopters.

He said there really is a present need for the AFP to procure helicopters and cargo planes, especially now that the air force only has two C-130 cargo plane working after the other one crashed in Davao last year.

The multi-billion peso Capability Upgrade Program (CUP) is a component of the Philippine Defense Reform Program instituted in 2003 as a comprehensive project aimed at enhancing the equipment and capability of the AFP within a period of five years, starting from 2005 to 2010.



AH-1W Super Cobra

The AH-1W is a twin-engined upgraded and improved AH-1 flown by the United States Marine Corps (USMC). Super Cobras are also in service the Tawainese and Turkish militaries. The AH-1 'Whiskey Cobra' has enhanced avionics and can carry a wider range of weapons than the standard AH-1.

The AH-1W has been in service with the USMC since 1985. 4 Squadrons of Super Cobras accompianed the USMC's push into Kuwait during the 1991 Gulf War where they proved highly effective in the anti-armor role. 1 sortie alone resulted in 60 iraqi tanks destroyed.

It's projected that the Super Cobra will stay in service for another 10 years until it is completely replaced by the AH-1Z (a further set of upgrades to the AH-1, including 5-blade rotors, advanced sensors and countermeasures)

ah1 cobra helicopters
USMC AH-1W super cobra
AH-1W FEATURES

  • 20mm M197 cannon turret with 110 degree field of fire
  • wire-cutting blades postion around the cockpit to deal with the threat of high-tension wires - a real problem at low altitude
  • aluminium bodywork
  • twin engines (a must for operations over water)
  • 2-blade steel/aluminium tail rotors
  • night vision & electronic sensors allow for all-time / all-weather operations

AH-1W Super Cobra Specifications

flir and laser designator
The AH-1W's chin houses the Night Targeting System, Laser Designator and the Forward-Looking InfraRed (FLIR) sensor. The gunner uses this sensor suite to aim and fire the host of anti-tank missiles, rockets and 20mm cannon in a typical AH-1W loadout.
Crew 2 - With Pilot seated above and behind Gunner
Engines 2 1212-kW General Electric T700-GE-401 turboshafts
(1,625hp each)
Dimensions L - 58 ft
W (wingspan) - 10ft 7inches
H - 14ft 2 inches
Weights 4627 kg (empty)
6691 kg (max loudout)
Max Speed 352 kph
Range 395 km
Armament M197 three barrel 20 mm cannon (750 rounds) @ 650 rounds per minute
TOW wire guided missiles
Hellfire laser-guided anti-tank missiles
FFAR rockets
Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Avionics Night Targeting System (NTS) (FLIR, laser-designator)
AN/APR-39(V)2 Radar Warning Receiver
AN/ALE-39 chaff and flare dispensor


ah1-s cobra helicopter
US Marines AH-1W Super Cobra armed with Hellfire laser-guided missiles and HYDRA rocket pods.

111 comments:

  1. We should just take a chunk of the education budget and buy a fleet of F-22s or F-16s. Our military is gathering dust bigtime.

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  2. we can get this but the problem is the trained pilot also if this will be used for asg maybe it is over qualified.....

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  3. Now that's a change. guess the only armament they will be using is the cannon and rocket pods. cant imagine Phil gov paying for Tows or Hellfires either for training or field. as always they would use the money for something "else" *cough

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  4. why make things that kill human?

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  5. Wow..These new helicopters will enhance the capabilities of our airforce. I hope the government of the Philippines will continue upgrading its defense.Philippines shall rise again!

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  6. We should purchase F-18s and A-10s as well. These aircrafts are very reliable in supporting ground troops.

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  7. 8 brand new cobra's in 2010, plus, 7 simba, plus 75 f-16's,

    i saw the link here in wikipedia that the Philippines purchased 75 f-16 falcon, but it was remove, so i am sorry i dont have the prove,

    f-16's will be delivered in 2012,

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  8. sana po khit anpo ang bilhin nyo na gamit para sa ating mga kasundalohan ay pag nag request ng air support ay mag responde naman agad hinde ung nanghihinayang sa gasolina at bala.

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  9. Yes it is true that the Phil Govt did not proceed with the procurement of the F16's

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  10. they will use tow missiles,, a single tow missile is only cost 1.2M PESOS!

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  11. they already purchased the 75 f-16's,, it been proceed,, it will be deliver in 2012,, i saw the link here in wikipedia when it is not remove yet,,

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    1. ...........................you mean the 75 1:45 scale Revell model kits?

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  12. please don't use wikipedia as a reference. Anyone can write infos in wikipedia(even you or i myself). it's not a reliable source.

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  13. lahat ng kapit bahay natin nag up grade na ng fire power nila tayo na iiwan pa din sobra kurakot ng mga naka upo sa AFP PAF 132 pirma bago maka bili ng bago gamit at 132 tao din naka upo ang lalagayan ng nanalo sa biding kuno !!!! hoy ma awa naman kayo sa mga sundalo nasa mindanao pag hingi ng air strike 1 oras at 7 oras ang pagitan kaya nag wawala ang mga jr class officer namamatayan sila ng na iiwan ang mga gamit sa bulsa ng gen at top kurakot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  14. Maganda itong Cobra, since our war right now is fighting guirilla rebels and terrorist, cobra is really good at huting jackrabbits. now if we arm this baby with FLIR(infrared imaging and night vission) think how we can hunt this mofos in the forest!! it be like turkey shoot. The only problem is training, effective training. search new gucam footage sa youtube and you will kow what i mean.

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  15. the purchased of PHilippines air force is a new cobra, so it's already have FLIR, AH-1w had a Flir already.

    REsearch first before you put your comment,

    Flir is not a weapon, it is a camera vission!

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    1. FLIR is a thermal imaging system...( Forward Looking Infra Red )

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  16. cobra and a-10 will be a good combo choice before buying multi role fighter jets, dis is 2 slowy adjust our fighter pilots skills 4 the big 1

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  17. PAF needs 2 think that even if the equipments is expensive they should also consider that the equipment will show its price when it is put in the field at the same time it will save a whole lot of soldiers life in the end.

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  18. expensive nga pero madami namang din kayang e carry na iba ibang missiles kaysa sa md-530 so i hope PAF will not only think that the item is expensive but the things it can do. sana mag acquire din cla ng surface 2 air missiles kung hindi pa tayo maka bili ng fighter jets...maganda din na choice ang a-10 and cobra as a combo ^^ just keep praying and god may hear you :)

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  19. i hope PAF WILL BUY JAS-39 GRIPPEN OR F-35. f-35 is well into the 21 century with stealth capability..jas-39 is also well inside of 21 century but it doesnt have the stealth capability like the f-35. so the verdict is f-35 has more capability compared 2 jas-39 cause f-35 has stealth capability but jas-39 does not have. parehas naman ang kayang nilang gawin(jas-39,f-35)seek and destroy pero ang f-35 has an advantage of being less detectible in the field so it has more potential 2 be the predator not the prey :)

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  20. nge!!! F-35? pangarap lang yan, d natin kaya yan,

    hahahaha nag purchased nang ang Philippines nang f-16's noh,

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  21. f-16? cancelled na yan matagal na outdated mo namn.

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  22. ang dami nag sasabi jas39 gripen ang bibilihin ng PAF nakalimutan nila kung magkano ang f35 halos magka parehas lang cla eh

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  23. f35 ang pumalit sa f16 jz 4 ur info

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  24. ULol,, mag research nga kayo, 75 f-16 na nga ang edilever dito sa 2010 e, uungas nyo talga,

    f-35? wow!!! e 1 Billion USD lang ang budget nang pilipinas every year, tapos bibili tau nang f-35?

    put your fact, wag karantadohan,,

    mag compute nga kayo!

    daming bobong pinoy tlaga,

    walang alam!

    kung kayo nga dito sa lugar ko ha?

    sasabihan nyo pa akong outdated,

    e USA nga gumagamit pa nang f-16's..

    i work in palace! at ako ang nag lagay nang link nato.!

    nilgay ko na rin to sa wikipedia!

    uungas nyo!

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    1. shop at the scrap yard.... y guys don't have enough budget to build homes for ur people & u want to buy F35s?

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  25. maganda to.. unti.unti nang umaaangat ang ating modernization sa MILITARY OFFENSIVe ng ating bansa.. sna nman ay mai.deliver na ang F16 FIGHTING FALCON.. ISA YAN SA MGA PINAKa.paborito ko'ng fighter planes ng USAF.. A.K.A. VIPER..
    so, totoo ba talaga na na.purchased na ng PAF ANG 75 na F16???? pki.sagot.. tnx..


    LONG LIVE AIRFORCE..

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  26. one day i research Philippine air force, and in the current inventory their are 75 f-16's falcon will be deliver to 2010-2015,

    but it was remove by the Authority becuase our government don't want to expose the F-16's,,

    becuase if we expose it, and china will know it, they will put anti aircraft in spratlys,:
    said Teodoro

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    1. Now 2013......one also I never see flying.? Uncle Sam give you photos to put under your pillow.....ha..ha....ha....ha..ha....ha....

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  27. Education should be prioritized than the military. If there are no educated pilots, the planes would be useless. But this new acquisition of aircraft of the PAF is something that has been in plan since 1990s. I think this is part of the PAF Horizon Plan

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  28. No fucking Attack helicopters or a dream F-16 will be purchased if NOYNOY wins....full of leftist bastards besides him........The Philippine airforce dont have any fighters in service but do have some F5 in reserve......

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  29. All in All iyon mga leftist sa pinas would rather have an educated Pilot with no Plane, bibigyan na lang nila ng SARANGOLA ni PEPE lol........

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  30. Then doon sa BASA Air base instead na JETS..... Green revolusyon.... Tanim ng KAMOTE sa RUNWAY..LOL

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  31. i don't mind my tax will be use to purchase new fighter jet, attached heli and personnel carrier such as C130 Hercules. Security and defense should be the first in our country. our rebels already upgraded their armory and politic warlords has better weapons.

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  32. If we can buy AH-1 SuperCobras, what more than a mere TOW Hellfire Missiles?? You cant be like you can buy a dog, but not a dog food, but the dog food is cheaper...

    NOTE: Walang bisa ang fighter jets sa isang guerilla warfare dahil una ang kalaban ay kakaunti at disperse sa isang lugar na malaki. Ang fighter jets pag nagbigay ng support usually buildings, tanks or vehicles ang targets nyan, ang helicopters all-around, pero mas prone sa anti-aircraft missiles like RPGs kaysa sa fighter jets. At kung sakaling magkakaron man tayo ng fighter jets, ibig sabihin aatakihin na natin ang Sabah o Spratleys, kasi ang fighter jets ay for conventional warfare, or pang-gera

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  33. si teodoro dapat ang iboto,

    andun ako sa UST presidential forum,, all around si teodoro, why their are private army in PHI? because he said, we are lack of Military. 120,000 only for 7000+ island?

    so we must stretch the Military resources of our country, if i win, i would like to have even 400,000 Military, yan sabi ni teodoro,

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  34. wish we could also buy new boots for our AFP, specially for those in the Field.

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  35. mganda inumpisahan n nla modernization pro how true that AFP purchased a super carrier?

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  36. it's nice of them to order those kind of attack helicopters. as for fighter jets, i think the F-16's are enough for PAF kahit mga 20 aircraft tama na rin. well F-35 is such a magnificent aircraft which i wanna see it in PAF colors but it's too expensive for our government to buy even 2 or 4 of them. if they also plan to replace their aging C-130's, what about the A400M?

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  37. oh btw for the poster who says they should also order the F-22, you know that that kind of aircraft cannot be exported outside US.

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  38. Certain Jets really are not to be exported outside US. The AH-1 Cobra is better kaysa doon sa MG530. Obvious ba!! Dapat magpurchase din ang government ng A400M o kaya mag lease ng C17 para mapalitan na ung maga aging C130s d2 sa Pinas.

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  39. VOTE FOR TEODORO WAHAHAH..
    PLZZ LNG KUNG GUS2 NYO MA MODERNIZE AND AFP


    PLLSS IBOTO NYO AT I-PRAY CYA...

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  40. The DND did the right thing in awarding Pzl Swidnik S.A. of 8 Pzl W-3 Sokol (Falcon) helicopters for the Phil Air Force's CUH requirement, so it will be the same for the procurement of a dozen AH-1W Super Cobra Helicopters with Hellfire Missiles and Zuny Rockets Or the Hydra Rockets for actual operation of the Phil Air Force; its only takes some time for the DND to process this and it will be delivered their not saying when but it is certainly within the time frame given by Pres. Arroyo before she will step down.

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  41. Is this officiaL? iba paba un W-3 Sokol d2 sa pag bili ng AH-1W? o natalo un bid at un W-3 na ang ipnalit?

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  42. whats the latest update about this article? are there any development or nabaon na naman to sa limot

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  43. I will vote for Gibo Teodoro, surley,but i have a question?kelan ba i deliver itong helicopter na to...can someone give me the exact date...

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  44. more recon and attack drones. drones technology will save more operational money and cover more area. for logistics buy more c-130s.

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  45. F35? di pa kaya bilhin nang pinas ang F35 even F22 di kaya natin pero kung F16 at saka F18 pwede pa maganda ang Grifin JAS39 pero tingnan mo yung payloads ng F16 at F18 sa JAS39. Kung sakali mag dagdag ang PAF ng Fighter Jets kung meron na yung F16 pipili-on ko yung AV-8B Harrier II at ang A10 II thunderbolts at saka kung may budget pa kuha na rin sila nang dalawang Heavy Transport Aircraft bili narin nang SAMS

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  46. Wag nga kayong hangal.... Masyadong mahal ang F35 at JAS Gripen.. But I would admit that it would be a better choice.. Pero kulang tayo sa pera.. Kaya upgraded F16 muna bilhin natin plus radar systems, helicopters and transport planes... Wala naman tayong external conflict.. Kaya na ng F16 ang mga present threats natin, F16 is a multirole plane... And the U.S. will only phase out F16 on the year 2025, they will just constantly upgrade its capability and systems.. F16 is commonly used by air national guards of U.S...

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  47. drones. kapag ang drones nilagyan na ng sidewinders or AAM all the fighters will be obsolete. no more expensive pilot training.

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  48. Drone signals can be jammed.. And the flying range is limited... The Philippines ordered unmmaned aerial vehicles for maritime recon purposes, it will be under the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency.. As I've said F16 is our best choice this time... But I would prefer and I think many military experts would agree with me that our Navy should be modernized first... It's because we are a maritime nation..

    Diom....

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    1. sorry you mean kites right?....cannot be drones, why? coz Phils WALAK PERA

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  49. sa tingin ko po ams mgnda gmitin ang F-15E . Isa po itong variant ng F-15 na may attack capabilities at mas mataas ang specs nito kesa sa F-16Block50/52

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  50. anung version bang F-16 ang bibilhin? mas maganda siguro yung block60. katulad nung sa israel or uae..Para naman di outdated. kasi fromthe time na nadeliver na sa atin yung f-16,may mas hightech ng system ang ibang kalapit nating bansa. baka nadeliver na sa thailand yung Jas39 gripen nila...so for me,f-16 is good,the block60...better

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  51. i dont think we'll be needing those high performance aircraft.our war right now is internal in nature.guerilla warfare.i suggest the Phil govt should focus on aircraft like helis for quick support to ground units..

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  52. Iba ang W-3 sokol sa Cobra, ang Sokols ay Combat Utility Helicopters while cobras are attack helicopters, naka specify yan sa Modenization program.

    I hears a news also na within this year ay idedeliver naman ang brand new surveilance/recon aircraft. Di nga lang nabangit kung anung unit.

    Ito link:
    http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=559882&publicationSubCategoryId=63

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  53. US Air Force are investing more on drone technologies. Drone operators are replacing jet pilots.

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  54. Sorry guys, but I'll shoot your dreams to pieces..

    PAF DIDN'T PROCEED ACQUIRING F-16's..

    The Philippines were offered embargoed 28 A/B Block 50-something models initially bought by Pakistan, but stupidly commented by a senator, saying that if we would acquire these birds, we should get the newest ones, referring to C/D models, which were configured to use smart weaponry. Of course we cannot afford that, that's why the deal was rejected. So these fighters were just integrated by the USAF to their fleet instead.. GRRRRR!

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  55. its high time for the philippine armed forces to modernize. Presently we are the weakest in the region. Lets give a little respect to ourselves let us buy this military equipments coz our survival depends on having a credible military force . Sometimes we must be prepared to go to war to attain peace.

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  56. I saw the delivery of looks like some kind attack helo yesterday, they were stored in a warehouse in pasay! definitely they are already here!

    I heard they will be used by GMA to ensure she will remain in power after the planned & expected failure of election! this is the reason why she badly want some military hardware before end of her term! pls pray for the Philippines sisikat nanaman tyo sa news!

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  57. mas Ok yung AH-1 Cobra kasi halos parehas nadin yan ng Apache attack helicopter na mas advance. sikapin sana makaorder ng Super Cobra yung mas updated na model ng Cobra para atleast mas moderno na tayo. yun kasi gamit ng US Marines bilang air support nila.

    pagdating sa fighter jets, sa ngayon F-16 Falcon muna tayo para maiangat yung inventory natin ng mga makabagong fighter jets, kung maarin yung mas updated model sana ang bilhin.

    Nakakaawa na kasi ang Airforce natin masyado na napapahulian, siguro mas karapatdapat sa mga piloto natin ang mga bagong eroplano kaysa mga 2nd or 3rd hand na mga eroplano.

    Kahit na internal ang problema natin mas nakakataas ng moral yung me mga sandata kang maayos at me kapabilidad na mas ok kaysa sa gamit natin ngayon.

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  58. Secretary Norberto Gonzales announced today that six night attack helicopters for the Air Force are due for delivery this Month.

    These attack helicopters were reconditioned Cobra models which the Defense department purchased for more than P3 billion from Israel.

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    1. yes sarrrrr!....night attack helicopter.....painted black

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  59. Can I just say something. We should also buy the highly- advanced air superiority F-15C Eagle, a living air legend. It's a very powerful aircraft, and we do also need F-18s and A-10s as well. The F-35, Mil Mi-28s, Kamov Ka-50s,MiG-29s, MiG-35s, Sukhoi Su-27s, Sukhoi Su-30s is very important as well, I do hope The Philippine Gov.t will purchase it.

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  60. wag kc muna kayo umasa, kahit mabili yan bka ipangdisplay lang yan ng mga pulitiko..

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  61. sana its true mlaking impact yn s moral ng airforv
    ce ntin d lng tayo s umasa s mga refurbished aircraft at second hand sana matuloy procure ment yn....nd sana mgkaroon n tau ng real multi role aircraft at sana kung toto n mrami taung mga aircraft kaso cra lng give some funds on it para magamit nmn.

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  62. ang gulo nmn ang alm ko puro refurbished/reconditioned n cobra lng from israel ung iaacquire iba p b yng super cobra n iaacquire from us wat b totoo mybe totoo n mkakuha ung 75 n f16 by means ng loans s america but lalaki utang ntin mybe aus muna ung 36 n 16.tpoa ung mga aircraft n nsa inventory repair ntin pra dumami air fleet ntin..

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  63. Dapat bumili na tayo ng ac-130! Dudurugin yang mga NPA, MILF at Abu sayyaf!

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  64. No matter what,in any country in the world, the strength of its armed forces are solely depended on civilian economy. If you want modern and strong AFP, we must make the filipino peopler rich first in order to collect enough revenues to acquired and maintain modern platform. There's always hidden charges when you acquire new things, you know it, everyone know it.

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  65. During the 90s FVR thru approval of congress programmed to acquire 50 F16 jetfighter. Ala nabili kahit isa yung PAF, ang galing. Pero mas magaling and PN, binigyan ng pera para bumili ng isang bagong hightech na destroyer. Ang nangyari nakabinili ng tatlong obsolete na britsh corvette, may savings pa, talo PAF. Kaso mahirap hanap ng parts, briton kasi, tawag nga sa PS36 na nabili ay dakilang lumpo, italian navy kasi (AKA laging nakatali).

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  66. we should consider the super typhon jets from UK , 24 second hand jets costs only 1.5 billion $ dollars, it is fifth generation jets , even F-16,18,15s cant match...

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  67. i guess in a technical and economical point of view what we need is a multi role day/night helicopter like the westland AH1 Gazelle for the PAF. the performance is ideal for the philippine enviroment and the logistic support is available for the next 20 years

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  68. Discussion had reach the berdict, ala pa rin deliveries ng mga sinabi nyo kahit isa, bababa na si Gloria sa Presidential Office, May bagong administration, syempre mga bagong cabinet members na naman; rebump of secretary offices, review ng budgets, new auction, new conspiracy and new in everything. How do you expect the purchase and modernization to proceed? It better of acquiring our own prototype and start investing in technology development. rather than relying always to uncle sam, who knows? we filipinos are smart, we're not dumb and brainless races in the face of the earth, PAF before then, attempt to develop our own, air craft and helicopter; back in 70's till early 80's. but failed due to lack of support from the gov't. I must say, we have brains no differ than Japanese, Americans and Europians; we to can think and create things. what we don't have is supportive government and the will...

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  69. why evrybody look for USA equipment? f-35 is cost about USD 120million dollars (flyaway cost)and needs a US congress aproval JAS grinfin also not fitted to philippine (read the specs and operational cost and tactical methodology), look at the other corner of the world mi-8 is more cheaper than sokol which is only a copycat of mi-8(hip) cost about USD 5-7 mil. this helo is use allover the world even US marines use it. mi-35 hind is the best type of helo to suit our commando tactic. typoon is also good but with a high maintenace cost. and has a tag price of USD 70~90 mil. let fucos first sa gound forces natin we have one of the best sniper and commandos, which need an armour, tama na ang simba, at ung nga ligth built armour, what need is medium armour since the goverment foes have .50 cal arm which can stand the fury of it. tyo lng ata ang nag pa-uso ng gawing front line and ligth armour eh. even ang USA na kinabibiliban nyo dont use ligth armour in combat, and invest muna tyo sa costal defend, air defence, and ground superiority, many country did does thing first befor going air and naval superiority, the reason is we can monitor our air and sea in land base. and reponce on when needed,

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  70. The Department of National Defense had already inked a Deal with Chengdu Aircraft Industries Corporation (CAC) of China!!! Sec. Voltaire Gazmin had announce this! Philippine Air Force will get 24 JF-17 Thunders from the Peoples Republic of China!..

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  71. Please see attached link it the web page for the AFP Modernization. Lets vote for Philippine Air Force to be the prioty of the AFP Modernization this has been long overdue.

    http://www.afpmodernization.mil.ph/

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  72. The DND should purchase 12 AH-1S Huey Cobras and 12 AH-1W Super Cobras Attack Helicopters all 24 of these! this could be at best! For our Philippine Air Force's dire needs!.

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  73. GO FOR THE COBRA HELICOPTER! so that we ELIMINATE the NON-PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE of the philippines like the NPA,ABU-SAYAFF,MILF AND AMPATUANS! if we still have money, i would recommend A-10 WARTHOG! Those cannons of A-10 will take of these BAD GUYS!

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  74. WHERE IS THE LINK!!!

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  75. oh come on!!what do you mean by PAF philippine air force or PAF pakistan air force, listen dont post a comment that even your selt did not know..

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  76. We shoul buy basically the T-6 Texan beacause they basically costls less than the trainers that are presently being used by our air force.Considering the aquisition of jets we might as well buy multi-role jets which can be use in different operations but it should have large fuel tanks for patroling the PHILIPPINE AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY (AIRSPACE). They should take a good look the Russian made planes becase they are cheap to run,are easy to maintain,has a long airframe life,and there are lots of it arounf the world flying 24/7and PAF wont have to worry about spare parts that are available.Just dont buy them second-hand.Even the US air force used them for training and other NATO AIR FORCES so why not buy them they are cheaper than those american planes and did I say they are also multi role planes. Regarding the aquisition of those cobras,its a good start for the long awaited modernization of the PAF.GOOD LUCK about your old planes.

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  77. No iwant F 5 back!

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  78. KONG ANG DND GUSTO BUMILI NG GALING CHINA MASMAGANDA PA WAGNA. KONG GALING CHINA. LANG MAG ISIP NG 1000 NG ISANG LIBONG BESES C GASMIN SA JF 17 THUDERS. F16 C/D F16 FALCON AT SUPER COBRA ATTACK HELICOPTERS MASMAGANDA PA DI MASASAYANG PERA NI JUAN DELA CRUZ PAG GALING CHINA BULOK WALANG TIBAY NA MAASAHAN MR. PRESIDENT SIR F16C/D F22 RAPTOR NA TYO AT
    SUPPER COBRA ATTACK HELICOPTER AT F16 FALCON MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS AT PHILIPPINE AIR FORCE AT PRESIDENT NOYNOY AQUINO

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  79. Sana nga mga kababayab dumating ang araw ng may mabili naman, kaysa nanganagrap lang tayong lahat dito sa wala. Lahat ay tila ba nakasalalay sa mga pulitikong puro sarili lang ang iniisip at hindi ang ating bayan. Kung ako lang ang tatanongin mabuti pa sigurong tayo na ang bumili at idonate sa AFP kasi baka lolo na mga apo natin ay di parin natutuloy ang pagbili ng mga makabagong kasangkapang ito. Mga KURAP na PULITIKO at HENERAL maawa naman kayo sa bansa natin, mukha na tayong pulubi sa ASYA ay puro sarili parin iniisip nyo at puro papogi sa media.

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  80. pulitoko makasarili at panay dakdak ng dakdak sa congress wala pag mamahal sa bayan ayan ang mga buhaya meron sarili interest ung mga politiko warlord nag supply ng baril sa mindanao!!!!!! hindi nalang ako mag babayad ng tax ko at nilalagay lang nila sa bulsa nila samantala ung mga sundalo humihingi ng air strike na hindi tamaan ng m60 ng huey hoy ma gising naman kayo at intidihin ninyo mga fire power natin gusto ninyo ma ubos ang kalaban pero wala tools para makatulong panay dakdak lang kayo!!!!!!

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  81. Panoorin nalang nating mga Pilipino habang unti unti tayong sinasakop ng ibang bansa dahil sa kainutilan ng ating gobyernong puksain ang mga kurakot na pulitiko. China sakupin mona kami yan ang sabi ng mga unutil nating pulitiko na walang alam kundi umutang para sa PORK barel nila...HAHAHA kawawa naman mga ka apo apuhan nating mga Pilipino, nasadlak sa kahirapan at utang dahil sa mga walang hiya at walang utak nating mga pulitiko.

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  82. During the 1960's PAF was the first Asian nation to have a state of the art supersonic aircraft, and was recognize to be the best in terms of modernization of its weaponry.. sad to say that corruption decayed the wings of this once proud eagles of the skies.. i hope that the government will push through its modernization program.

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  83. Kesa F-16 dapat MIG-29 nlang ang bilhin natin o kya SU-25 na pantapat ng russia sa A-10.. A-10 is for US use only.. maganda rin ung cobra (or KA-50) at least very useful un sa counter-insurgency ops natin.

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  84. maganda cguro kung ikabit nlang natin sa mga bomba ng flying coffins aw sorry sarrangola natin ung mga kurap n mga pulitiko natin tapos ihulog sa mga kampo ng mga rebelde at sa mansion nila erap at ampatuan!

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  85. I think mas maganda siguro na magkaroon tayo ng attack UAV tulad ng reaper at mga attack helicopters tulad ng super cobra or Apache para sa counter insurgency at anti-terrorist campaign...kahit ilan lang..more on guerrilla warfare lng nmn kasi ang mga rebelde at terorista eh..at least may pang surveillance at pang attack tayo...sa pang depensa..pwede na rin ang F-16 basta yong pinaka latest..pero mas ok siguro kung F-18 super hornet or F-15E..all weather fighter bomber kasi ang mga yan eh..pwede rin silang mga interceptor...at sana mag develop na lang tayo ng mga missile boat..tapos buhayin na lang ang missile research program natin..mag develop na lang tayo ng sariling SAM at mga anti-ship missile. pwede naman tayo magpatulong mag develop eh... for example sa Israel..sa ground force natin..mas maganda siguro na madami tayong mga special forces..tapos, e upgade ang mga communication at mga combat equipments nila...yon lang..medyo malabo na siguro mangyari..sobrang corrupt ng gobyerno..kawawa mga sundalo natin..

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  86. Tingin ko kokontra kayo sa susulat ko.. forget anything fancy like fighter planes, etc.. mas maganda secretly mag produce nlang tayo ng nerve gases at mas deadly strain ng anthrax! thats right bioweapons! (poor man's atomic bomb hehe) kahit isaboy lang yan ng mescallero natin sa kuta ng mga abu sayaff at MILF sigurado tapos ang laban!! evacuate mo lang paunti unti ang friendlies para 'la damay..

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  87. Ang talagang kailangan ng AFP are 20 F-16(newer version), 20 mobile SAM launchers/Trucks, 10 Corvettes (Tomahawk equipped), 10 A-10, 15 BAe Hawk(trainer/fighter modified), Radar Installations upgrades, 10 Corvettes (missile capable with CISW Phalanx), 50 Fast Attack craft(missile/oerlikon capable). Time frame 5-10 years completes this needs of the PAF and PN.

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  88. Sometimes kailangan din implement ang seguridad ng Bansa. Investors shy away sa mga bansang hindi kaya depensahan ang sarili. Those pork barrels and unnecessary expense can augment the budget and improve the image of the country. Konting sakripisyo lang galing sa mga politiko. Dapat ding ihanda ang DOST to promote missile fissle projects tulad noong time na we dream of taking the project missile(Marcos time); Ang mga Filipino hinahangaan sa USAF and USN, bright minds which kailangan implement sa Pilipinas.

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  89. Contrary to popular beliefs, negotiations with Israel regarding Cobra Attack helicopters are still on going according to sources within the DND as President Aquino find no problem with the proposed acquisition project, although they seems to be on hold for sometime.

    Secretary Gazmin said that President Aquino intends to add a billion pesos more for this acquisition on top of GMA's additional budget, presumably, for training costs and spare parts.

    A peek at the proposal suggests that the choppers are to be delivered bare, without the upgraded avionic parts and guidance systems, whatever that is, and that is now the contention of the negotiations.

    From Gazmin's statement, it could be seen as a done deal. A trip to Israel is also in the works to lend credence of our governments interest, perhaps to seal this deal, or negotiate a better terms? Nothing is final yet. Decisions will be made by next year.

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  90. The military is in dire need of these upgrades. A strong military is indicative of a strong and stable republic. The government needs to expedite the aquisition of these helicopters.

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  91. OUR ARMY DESERVE THIS!! AFTER ALL THE SCRAPS THAT THEY ARE STILL USING FOR THE PAST DECADES(THE FLYING COFFINS)... PLEASE CONTINUE UPGRADING OUR FLEET SO THAT HE INVESTORS WILL NOT HESITATE TO SPEND THEIR MONEY IN OUR COUNTRY. THIS IS A GOOD SIGN OF PROGRESS FOR THE MILITARY

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  92. tama!!! kayo walang silbi ang ating mga pulitiko makapal pa sa lahat nang makapal puro plano na bibili nyan... walang pangarap na umasinso ang pilipinas at walang awa sa mga sundalo natin kaya sila umaalsa laban sa ating napaka talinong guverno. talino sa kurakot kaya dapat lang umalsa ang sundalo pagbabarilin yan mga walang hiyang poliko magiling mag salita mga walang hiya????? gusto nyong bumili ng de kalibring gamit pang digma sa US.nalang kong saan saan pa kasi bibili.... gunggung talaga????

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  93. Nice sana BUmili Cla ng Tanks...............

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  94. wala na bang pag asa ang ating bayan,Mr. President??????

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    1. Hanggang corrupt ang ating political environment, wala nang pag-asa ang bayan natin. nagkamali ang mga pinoy nuong panahon ni Manuel Quezon. Sana hindi pinairal nuon ang nationalism tuloy na lang pagiging commonwealth. Look at now, kung pahihintulot lang ng USA na open borders sa lahat ng pinoy sa Pinas, baka wala nang matira sa bansa natin at lahat nasa states na!

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  95. i think its much better if the government alloted the money to education and health, instead of these wart machines that will result only of more death and distructions..this is counter productive given the condition of our countries educational and health programs..

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  96. government has its own allocation for that, the fund for AFP is for providing safety, security and sovereignty! kaya nga malaki ang interest ng ibang asian countries sa spratlys because of a possibility of large deposit of oils and natural gas! kugn wala tayong seguridad pano natin ma puprotektahan ang ating teritoryo at mga likas na yaman? papayag nalang ba tyo na papasok sa teritoryo natin ang ibang bansa na wala tyong gagawin? think first mr anonymous before ka mag post ng kung ano ano.. all of you hav said are being considered!

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  97. wla taung mabibili khit ano as long as our country is full of those goddamned corrupt politicians..those suckers..damn..

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  98. I suggest this planed and their quantites..

    24 F-16 C/D (for patrolling, and bombing targets)

    12 F-15 (for patrolling our border, and one of the best fighter ever made 100:0 Kill ratio)

    4 A-10 Warthogs (so we can give our marines some close/specific airsupport)

    honestly we dont need F-18 because it is used mainly for the Navy (with carrier)

    and also try adding up 8 Apache Longbow's
    24 Cobra...

    WOW and laking gastos para dito, dapat taasan kasi yung parte ng Military sa GDP which is 0.8% lang, dapat itaas natin yun hanggang 4% para bumilis and modernization...

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  99. 6 f-16 viper, 10 cobra heli, 50 heavy armored personnel carrier or halftrack, is enough for the current budget to start with. Umpisa lng tlaga ang kulang. Then purchased russsian S300 misssile system, di n tayo dehado nyan.

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  100. downpayment ......5000 pesos..they give you photographs of the purchase first....lol

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  101. Its 2013 and your airforce still using "Bedrock as in the Flinstones" aircraft.....ha ha ha

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